Group Build, DJI NAZA/F450 Quadcopter!

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  1. Bartman

    Bartman smallUAVcoalition.org Staff Member Small UAV Coalition Pro

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    Hi everyone,

    I'd like to propose a group build. We'll start with the process of selecting components, we'll purchase what we need, and then go step by step through the assembly and flight testing. To the maximum extent possible we'll stick with one list of pieces but there will also be room for people to customize things.

    As it is intended to be a learning process we'll pick components typical for a light lift quad or hex and the proceed to add what would be useful for sport flying, FPV, or aerial photo/video use.

    Right off the bat I'd steer us towards a DJI F450 or F550 frame set, Tiger 2216 motors, 10" props, Turnigy Plush 30A ESC's and either the DJI NAZA or XAircraft Super X flight control systems. There's an inexpensive brushless GoPro gimbal we can adapt to the frame and with a landing gear solution you'll be good to go. A simple GoPro mount would be better for FPV and there wouldn't be any camera for just flying around the local park or RC field.

    Anyone interested in something like this? I was going to help a fellow member to get started and just thought maybe we could have some fun with it here. Winter's coming (for us N. Hemisphererers) so it's a good time to kick off a new build project.

    Who's in?

    EDIT:

    We've gone ahead and started the group build. From that I've added a list of abbreviations for multi-rotor helicopters and their associated equipment/hardware/manufacturers/etc.;
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/sho...Heli-abbreviations-acronyms-secret-codes-etc-!

    There is also a tutorial on Lithium Polymer batteries;
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/showthread.php?12819-Understanding-Lithium-Polymer-batteries

    Some points about hardware selection;
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/sho...50-Quadcopter!&p=139675&viewfull=1#post139675

    Outline of initial set-up using NAZA-M Assistant
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/sho...AZA-M-V2-w-GPS&p=149450&viewfull=1#post149450

    About first flights;
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/sho...50-Quadcopter!&p=141416&viewfull=1#post141416

    NAZA Quick Start Guide Review
    http://www.multirotorforums.com/sho...50-Quadcopter!&p=142412&viewfull=1#post142412

    Here are the videos that are posted in the thread covering different aspects of the build process





    DJI NAZA intro video


    Another DJI demo video








     
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  2. Bartman

    Bartman smallUAVcoalition.org Staff Member Small UAV Coalition Pro

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    The first step would be to discuss frames that are available. The DJI F450 and F550 frames are nice in that they have the power distribution built in. Power distribution just means that the power for the batteries is attached at one point on the frame and then routed to other parts of the frame where the motor controllers would pick it up to power the motors.

    I'm going to use a DJI F450 frame, they're $40 and available everywhere. What else should be considered? I'd like to avoid having the build get too bogged down by there being too much variety being discussed, let's just keep that in mind. fwiw, i'm not a dji dealer.
     
  3. SleepyC

    SleepyC Moderator Staff Member

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    I like the Quadframe US 530mm Medium lift frame.

    QUAD16mm01_1024x1024_large.jpg

    It's more "real' looking tough and can take the electronics you are describing. You can choose a ton of LG for it and fit any kind of gimbal you want.
    just a thought.
     
  4. djw43

    djw43 SUAVC Supporter SUAVC Supporter

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    :nevreness: wow, couldn't ask for anything better as a newbie, get the build yourself prices, get the knowledge of how everything gets put together for fixing, and get support on the assembly. If the final result has the ability to do a decent aerial video for a residential real estate listing, or have the ability to be upgraded to that stage, I am 100% in.
    If this unit won't have that ability, but is a necessary step to getting a craft that will make those videos, then I am still in.

    thanks very much, and no hurry for me, can wait till we have a reasonable number of interested people :nevreness:

    simulator arrives today!
     
  5. PeteDee

    PeteDee Mr take no prisoners!

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    I already have a DJI550 set up with 2 axis brushless gimbal and going to use one of my spare DJ450 frames to build a new lightweight aerobatic quad.

    Already have 18A ESc's, NTM 2826 1000kv motors, will use either Naza Lite or KK2, have both available, probably just use GemFan 10x4.7 props rather than my usual CF 10x5's.

    Pete
     
  6. Bartman

    Bartman smallUAVcoalition.org Staff Member Small UAV Coalition Pro

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    we'll wait a week or two and then get started. it'll go slow at first as people will have to order stuff but it should be fun and maybe we'll see a handful of new heli's take to the air as a result.
     
  7. jfro

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    I would suggest the f450 as you described. I built my first multi rotor this year. A 12 lb x8/ xy8 MR that I learned to fly without any major crashes. About 6-8 weeks ago, I built a f450, 2216 motors, 10" props, Naza V2 w/ GPS. Use my 5000mah 4s batteries & Tarot GoPro gimbal.

    Got to say I've flow more hours and had more fun flying and learning to fly the f450. It's going to be my scouting quad, but right now it's my learning / build confidence MR. 90 - 120 minutes for my 8 batteries vs 28 minutes on the big beast....

    I would suggest that your suggested parts based on the F450 for a group build because it is such a solid, cost effective MR, you can't really go wrong and it flies like a dream and is pretty stressless to fly compared to my heavier MR.
     
  8. RobertsUp

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    I'm in. I built my F450 hybrid thanks to the help I got at the forum. Next winter I want to build an F550 hybrid but better using the soldering and wiring skills I acquired. I suggest that the group build encompass both the F450 and F550. The only important difference being that one has two more motors. I may get started on my second craft late but an occasional update from me on what I'm doing and why could help the group build. Sounds like fun. And educational. But, ... maybe I should stay out because I already learned and my planned hybrid upgrades might confuse some people just wanting to learn how to build their own first MR any way they can.

    Rob
     
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  9. AUsome

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    Oh man, you are a savior...this is just what I think I need...I'm definitely in!!! I'd like to go ahead and get a transmitter and also a cheap quad (there are some really basic quads available for under $100). That way, I can learn to begin flying a quad while I get to building a "real" multi. I'm leaning toward either a Spektrum DX8 or a Futaba 8J. I'd be interested in thoughts on the transmitter.

    And I'll stop and check on a soldering iron at the same time. Clearly, both will be necessary...the build can proceed as fast or slow as necessary. I'd be interested in knowing where others who are in, are from. I'm from USA (Idaho).

    Cheers.
     
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  10. AUsome

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    The frame is not as important to me as other items, so I will go along with whatever everyone else settles on...but if we can minimize some of the abbreviations for awhile, it might help all of us as I'd guess we are all pretty new to this. For example, not idea what LG is. Should we first decide on a quad/hex and then go from there?
     

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